I was contemplating hosting a FAQ for the same cos I needed it too.
The whole MBA application process takes more than a year. If i gauge each phase on a minimum basis, two months for GMAT prep, Four months in applications, 2 months awaiting interviews, 1 month giving interviews, 1 month waiting for admits, 1 month negotiating with adcom,1 month renewing passport (worst case scenario), visa application, making travel arrangements and miscellanous stuff.
Well anyways. The TAMU Indian Association was kind enough to make an amazing document which has helped us a lot.
The Accounting prof has asked us to download a software called Aleks which will help her gauge our accounting knowledge at the start of the class. Lets see how i perform cos I have no accounting background whatsoever..
Yogesh is coming to Mumbai this weekend. So I hope to share a drink with him.
Swapnil has got busy again and R has got a job. Really happy for her.
Read Bharani's blog. He is an amazing person with a very clear thought process.
Wednesday, June 14, 2006
Good Morning ISB
This was one trip I had been contemplating for a long time. All credits to Nadu (T2) to pull me through to ISB (My second love...) . T2’s term 1 had just ended and he was in midst of a much deserved break. The night longbus trip hadnt worked wonders on me and somehow my spirits had gone to an alltime low. But the very sight of "Indian School of Business” flushed all thoughts and generated all the excitement to enjoy the very beauty of this awesome institution.
The security guard brought a smile on my face by referring that my name is identical to that of the Chairman’s and the very thought of being “The Rajat Gupta” made me nervous.
As I rode towards the student village I was amazed to go through the signboard. It read “Drive Slowly, Peacock Crossing”. Gosh it sounded as if I am in midst of an sanctuary.
And then I get to meet Freddie aka T2 in true bohemian style. I could see the very excitement in him to show me across ISB as he knew the crush/love I had for it.
One thing I realized about ISB, is that it will take a lot of a student’s commitment to remain fat cos u need to walk amazing distances to reach from one point to another. But on the whole it was fun cos I got an opportunity to talk about a host of things with T2. We talked about professors, carbon trading, artium and squash. Infact, I got to meet his squash partner at lunch and we talked all about ISB. How it is positioned, how it needs to grow and how more global finance companies need to be seduced..
And then I get to meet someone who actually complements T2, his would to be other half. I didn’t know that T2 could have made such a good choice knowing his earlier bent of mind. R is a true person at heart, very down-to-earth and has a distinct simplicity. The next two days passed off in a jiffy with T2 treating me at some great places. I was in awe with his hospitality and bored of his “I will take ur dollar treat later”.
The final day at Hyderabad was made memorable by our visit to the Golconda Fort. It was one rare example of spectacular architecture and unforeseen engineering. I couldn’t believe that medivial architects were so advanced. The sound and the light show with Mr. Amitabh Bacchan’s voice relived the history of Golconda.
After coming back to ISB we stayed awake all night talking about anything under the sun. Calling long distance and talking to our old friend and discussing some untouched areas of life made this visit a memorable one. I had come to visit ISB. But in the space of two days, I not only graced ISB but I got to know T2 and R much better and became emotionally attached to them.
T2 and ISB Rocks…
Thursday, April 20, 2006
Getting Ready...
It has been an hectic month. Getting passport re-issued (=heroic task), getting my I-20 done and following up with the admissions office for a better deal to study at Mays.
Swapnil is at ISB now and is very excited about being there. Check his blog for a realistic view on ISB. Prospective students should be in touch with him for the simple reason that he can give a very holistic view about the whole process.
Neetu has completed her MBA and her convocation is scheduled on 8th May.. Her family and I shall be present there. She is going to join TCS in June.
Yogesh is in Pune and shall be joining WIPRO in May. God everyone is getting settled and I am going the study way at 27. But then.. I have to..
Am really excited to meet Amitoj at Mays.. He has been an inspiring force for me towards this journey for my MBA. Frankly I hadnt even given a thought to attend Mays when I was writing my GMAT. But when I put every piece together, I feel its a good option and gives me an opportunity to come back to India..
Weekend is going to be at Pune. Have a ceremony planned for the new born baby... (Yuvraj).. He is a very sweet child....
Guess.two months are gonna go away soon.. I am going to schedule my visa date as soon as possible..
Hope to see Swapnil in the coming week...
Also intend to blog more :)
Swapnil is at ISB now and is very excited about being there. Check his blog for a realistic view on ISB. Prospective students should be in touch with him for the simple reason that he can give a very holistic view about the whole process.
Neetu has completed her MBA and her convocation is scheduled on 8th May.. Her family and I shall be present there. She is going to join TCS in June.
Yogesh is in Pune and shall be joining WIPRO in May. God everyone is getting settled and I am going the study way at 27. But then.. I have to..
Am really excited to meet Amitoj at Mays.. He has been an inspiring force for me towards this journey for my MBA. Frankly I hadnt even given a thought to attend Mays when I was writing my GMAT. But when I put every piece together, I feel its a good option and gives me an opportunity to come back to India..
Weekend is going to be at Pune. Have a ceremony planned for the new born baby... (Yuvraj).. He is a very sweet child....
Guess.two months are gonna go away soon.. I am going to schedule my visa date as soon as possible..
Hope to see Swapnil in the coming week...
Also intend to blog more :)
Monday, April 03, 2006
MAYS..It is...
It was a tough decision. But then.. It had to be taken. All pro's and con's considered, I have finally decided on accepting the admit at Mays Business School in United States. I was going through Swapnil's blog and was actually very impressed with his balanced perspective. In this whole application and acceptance saga, we forget the basic intention of doing an MBA. I strongly believe that in the end, it all boils down to the placements. Quality of education somehow gets tagged with the placements. Going through Ram's blog and reading about Prof. Nirmal Gupta's way of teaching, I feel that the Q of E should be a paramount factor of choosing one's b school.
Mays has some really good faculty and an amazing Alumni network. I know its tough comparing ISB to Mays. But then, its a trade off of gaining an year, a much debated international exposure, real diversity and virtually doing an MBA for free (read=scholarship + GA).
I am really looking forward to the course. But deep within, ISB will rule the heart.
Acknowledgements : Swapnil Nadkar, Amitoj Arya, Yogesh Garde, Smriti Gupta, Neetu Singh and Nitesh Batra.
Friday, March 03, 2006
Meeting T2... Part II
Met T2 again...
Its always a pleasure to meet T2. He is amazing individual and has such innovative and precise ideas and thoughts that one can listen to him for ages. It was an amazing evening at one of my favourite *resting* joints--> barista. I,T2 and N discussed anything under the sun. We had pics taken with our laptops and did some crazy things which brought me back to childhood. Well T2 is on the marriage way, so dont want to say anything else.
Well T2 will be joining ISB in April and I am going to miss him a lot. His confidence in me was unwarranted but it surely has brought me closer to ISB.
Hope T2 dosent disappear post- ISB. One panelist asked, you took a couple of gmat's. will you get so many retakes in life. And I guess the answer is, that each situation, meeting anything... is a retake... Its just that we dont realise it.
Its always a pleasure to meet T2. He is amazing individual and has such innovative and precise ideas and thoughts that one can listen to him for ages. It was an amazing evening at one of my favourite *resting* joints--> barista. I,T2 and N discussed anything under the sun. We had pics taken with our laptops and did some crazy things which brought me back to childhood. Well T2 is on the marriage way, so dont want to say anything else.
Well T2 will be joining ISB in April and I am going to miss him a lot. His confidence in me was unwarranted but it surely has brought me closer to ISB.
Hope T2 dosent disappear post- ISB. One panelist asked, you took a couple of gmat's. will you get so many retakes in life. And I guess the answer is, that each situation, meeting anything... is a retake... Its just that we dont realise it.
Friday, February 24, 2006
Meeting....T2
Yesterday I could finally get to meet my long time friend SN aka T2.. :) Well..according to him I am T1. FYI T stands for --> Taku.. SN was my classmate in Engineering college and post engineering took a complete different direction. I hardly know any one who had the guts to reject an IIM call during college. Speaks a lot about a person's belief in his capabilities. BTW he is ISB R1 amit and future star placement of ISB :) Amen...
His first glimpse brought a smile on my face. He rightfully looked like Andrew Flintoff and anybody could mistake him to be a monk dressed up in casuals :) Anyways.. Most of the time we were discussing ISB and my anxiety about the DDDDD day... Well.. I am actually very anxious now. I just want it.. Accept or Reject.. Whatever is the verdict..... Well anyways.. one of the panel members was already sending me crude vibrations signalling my reject.. But then..we live on hope.. and its hope which has brought me to this juncture. ...
Well..then... after the dinner we went to CCD.. And for the first time I had hot Irish Coffee... BTW I forgot to emphasize that T2 was on a treat spree..was treating me at Pizza Hut and paid for all the transits..
Anyways.. CCD was good.. I did get interrupted by some stupid phone call from office where the only speaking I had to do was to call a meeting tomorrow. Anyways.. We discussed about R, his financials and his vision post ISB.
His belief in me getting an admit from ISB boosted my lagging confidence. Though my gut feeling is roaring that "you got a chance" but my brain keeps on negating that.. But... well.. I can only pray,hope, eat,drink till Feb 28th.. If things go the other way I will start to pray,hope,eat,drink and WORK again towards the very goal (=dream) to be part of ISB.
T2 rocks....
His first glimpse brought a smile on my face. He rightfully looked like Andrew Flintoff and anybody could mistake him to be a monk dressed up in casuals :) Anyways.. Most of the time we were discussing ISB and my anxiety about the DDDDD day... Well.. I am actually very anxious now. I just want it.. Accept or Reject.. Whatever is the verdict..... Well anyways.. one of the panel members was already sending me crude vibrations signalling my reject.. But then..we live on hope.. and its hope which has brought me to this juncture. ...
Well..then... after the dinner we went to CCD.. And for the first time I had hot Irish Coffee... BTW I forgot to emphasize that T2 was on a treat spree..was treating me at Pizza Hut and paid for all the transits..
Anyways.. CCD was good.. I did get interrupted by some stupid phone call from office where the only speaking I had to do was to call a meeting tomorrow. Anyways.. We discussed about R, his financials and his vision post ISB.
His belief in me getting an admit from ISB boosted my lagging confidence. Though my gut feeling is roaring that "you got a chance" but my brain keeps on negating that.. But... well.. I can only pray,hope, eat,drink till Feb 28th.. If things go the other way I will start to pray,hope,eat,drink and WORK again towards the very goal (=dream) to be part of ISB.
T2 rocks....
Saturday, February 11, 2006
Moment... long awaited......
Finally the moment has arrived... Am scheduled for an interview with ISB on Monday.. Just woke up today morning only to realise that this would be a make or break situation..
When I was graduating out, I had started dreaming about ISB. But during the last five years i could bring sense to that dream...
Well..Got to work on my interview and hope to see myself as a R2 admit..:)
When I was graduating out, I had started dreaming about ISB. But during the last five years i could bring sense to that dream...
Well..Got to work on my interview and hope to see myself as a R2 admit..:)
Thursday, August 04, 2005
Cut off from the world
There was a time when anyone could have imagined going through the real life experience of Mr. Tom Hanks in Cast Away...
But... right now.. we are living in a world when I feel isolated if I happen to leave my mobile phone at home while venturing for a walk.. Recently.. I was in my Corporate GYM working out... We are not allowed to carry our phones out there... As I know its official not to carry the phone, I feel so relaxed while working out.. I feel I am in own world where nobody..yes nobody can disturb me ... But then..these feelings where very short lived... There was someone calling that the BOSS wants me back...
The point is.. We have graduated from the world where we had our own lives after office and would just take the time off to cool her heels...But as work pressures and continous hammering has increased.. Our life spans are bound to decrease.. Some one told me that dog lives less because the speed with which they breate is faster than human beings...At that moment it didnt make sense to me... But now it does...
We are responsible for our own lives...And whatever happens to us..Is not a curse of God...But an after effect of our own deeds... or whatever u may call it..
But... right now.. we are living in a world when I feel isolated if I happen to leave my mobile phone at home while venturing for a walk.. Recently.. I was in my Corporate GYM working out... We are not allowed to carry our phones out there... As I know its official not to carry the phone, I feel so relaxed while working out.. I feel I am in own world where nobody..yes nobody can disturb me ... But then..these feelings where very short lived... There was someone calling that the BOSS wants me back...
The point is.. We have graduated from the world where we had our own lives after office and would just take the time off to cool her heels...But as work pressures and continous hammering has increased.. Our life spans are bound to decrease.. Some one told me that dog lives less because the speed with which they breate is faster than human beings...At that moment it didnt make sense to me... But now it does...
We are responsible for our own lives...And whatever happens to us..Is not a curse of God...But an after effect of our own deeds... or whatever u may call it..
Friday, August 27, 2004
Mar's Syndrome
Well.. this is about a bit about branding... Mar's syndrome is connected with a certain style of branding.. Mars is a one of the top confectionery brand in the world..they started with milky way and the famous Mars bars... the company grew and profits swelled.. As the management changed and new product innovation led to pet food production. After a extended think process, it was decided that the pet food would not carry the Mar's brand name.. this was primarily done to avoid dilution of the brand and also to protect it from getting effected if the pet food didnt do well.. this singular branding process was then christened Mar's syndrome...
On the contrary, Richard Branson of Virgin, launched every product under the company's stable carrying the Virgin tag.. Be it virgin airlines,virgin music or the latest virgin erotic lingerie... all carry the virgin brand name... This british baron has off and on commented on the risk he carries.. Virgin is synonymous to quality and innovativness.. according to him, whenever a consumer see's the Virgin (the famous Mermaid_) logo, he can imagine the product to be different from others.. there is a risk of dilution and one product loss may effect the other.. but then.. it seems..the risk is worth it...
overall..what i wanna say is.. that.. its the perception of each one of us, which can carry a product to any destination which we wanna reach... very few success stories have revolved around market research.. most of them have had an element of gut feeling and risk.. innovation is actually all about these two.. if u can risk to think the way you feel.. u can do wonders...
just do it...
On the contrary, Richard Branson of Virgin, launched every product under the company's stable carrying the Virgin tag.. Be it virgin airlines,virgin music or the latest virgin erotic lingerie... all carry the virgin brand name... This british baron has off and on commented on the risk he carries.. Virgin is synonymous to quality and innovativness.. according to him, whenever a consumer see's the Virgin (the famous Mermaid_) logo, he can imagine the product to be different from others.. there is a risk of dilution and one product loss may effect the other.. but then.. it seems..the risk is worth it...
overall..what i wanna say is.. that.. its the perception of each one of us, which can carry a product to any destination which we wanna reach... very few success stories have revolved around market research.. most of them have had an element of gut feeling and risk.. innovation is actually all about these two.. if u can risk to think the way you feel.. u can do wonders...
just do it...
Tuesday, August 03, 2004
hey you.....
Each day... every night.. 24 hours.. life goes on... but somewhere.. an urge to do something different... be different.. is there in each one of us... to achieve is everyone's yearning.. but some make it..and other's dont... what is that.. which differentiates...
is it talent.. hard work (which i feel has become synonymous to life..).. iq ...or.. just common sense....am i being paranoid.. or i want to become one.. nah... its not that.. its something else.. its that want.. want to acheive.. nah.. its the want to be myself.. not to pretend.. not to act.. not to bloom but to blast.. what is it that which makes us what we are... its the goal within ourselves..
A goal exists within each of us.. as a baby..to have that every drop of our mother's milk... as a child..to break everything in our sight.. as a teenager..to break free.. but from what.. we never know.. as a youngster.. to sleep with every woman we meet.. as a bachelor..to marry no one less than salma hayek..as a married man.. to make your wife the happiest woman on earth... as a father.. making ends meet.. as a elder to be respected.. .... life goes on..
we always have a urge to outshine... to perform better than someone... and that urge is what makes a man a product which can be banked upon... a product to be used until it delivers.. but in that process.. the fundmental concept remains forgotten... what makes a product.. its one.. which learns.. which acquires.. which has a close system where in every feedback is seen upon with utmost care.. which... on its own..want to live a life of his own.. a life..not affected by social rules..stigma or responsibilities.. only when one is devoid of this can he shine.. bcos..to shine.. purity of thought is needed...
is it talent.. hard work (which i feel has become synonymous to life..).. iq ...or.. just common sense....am i being paranoid.. or i want to become one.. nah... its not that.. its something else.. its that want.. want to acheive.. nah.. its the want to be myself.. not to pretend.. not to act.. not to bloom but to blast.. what is it that which makes us what we are... its the goal within ourselves..
A goal exists within each of us.. as a baby..to have that every drop of our mother's milk... as a child..to break everything in our sight.. as a teenager..to break free.. but from what.. we never know.. as a youngster.. to sleep with every woman we meet.. as a bachelor..to marry no one less than salma hayek..as a married man.. to make your wife the happiest woman on earth... as a father.. making ends meet.. as a elder to be respected.. .... life goes on..
we always have a urge to outshine... to perform better than someone... and that urge is what makes a man a product which can be banked upon... a product to be used until it delivers.. but in that process.. the fundmental concept remains forgotten... what makes a product.. its one.. which learns.. which acquires.. which has a close system where in every feedback is seen upon with utmost care.. which... on its own..want to live a life of his own.. a life..not affected by social rules..stigma or responsibilities.. only when one is devoid of this can he shine.. bcos..to shine.. purity of thought is needed...
Monday, August 02, 2004
me,myself and he
i just dont know..
why the heck am i here....
gosh.. makes me crazy...
whether i am alive or dead...
relevance.. or not...
socially and mentally....
me or without me..
does it matter...
whether i am here or not...
the thought...
to live...seems exciting...
but where is the game...
which i saw in my dreams...
i couldnt live through it...
but i wanna do it...
is it because...
i am on the "other side"..
Wanna see the end...
as it is...
plain vanilla..
with a topping of reality...
death seems so mysterious..
scary at times...
but what a moment it shall be..
when eyes shut down...
soul creeps out...and shouts..
hey you.. take me your arms..
and guide me to....where i belong...
why the heck am i here....
gosh.. makes me crazy...
whether i am alive or dead...
relevance.. or not...
socially and mentally....
me or without me..
does it matter...
whether i am here or not...
the thought...
to live...seems exciting...
but where is the game...
which i saw in my dreams...
i couldnt live through it...
but i wanna do it...
is it because...
i am on the "other side"..
Wanna see the end...
as it is...
plain vanilla..
with a topping of reality...
death seems so mysterious..
scary at times...
but what a moment it shall be..
when eyes shut down...
soul creeps out...and shouts..
hey you.. take me your arms..
and guide me to....where i belong...
Wednesday, July 28, 2004
Today... and hopefully tomorrow...
This day.. .. a day where i could actually take a major decision in life.. Life dosent give u many situations wherein you have to decide what you wanna do...
today.. a confusion prevailed where i had to decide between a lucrative job offer or a hope.. a hope to learn and reach somewhere i always wanted to reach....
I have to work.. the rest will follow..
today.. a confusion prevailed where i had to decide between a lucrative job offer or a hope.. a hope to learn and reach somewhere i always wanted to reach....
I have to work.. the rest will follow..
Wednesday, July 21, 2004
Tuesday, July 20, 2004
On Road
I was so confused what to do..what not to do.. am in a booming industry..the whole world kept on saying....gosh..u thinkin to leave telecom..u gone nuts.. u plannin to do a full time mba !! forsaking a lucrative salary...
But... I want to reach my destination...my goal... to become someone who could directly enhance and plan the growth or an organization/institution...
Its not that I was not growing.. I was... But i needed vertical growth.. i need the pressure.. i need the environment which could sustain continous growth and responsibilities.. i needed myself.. wanted to reinvent myself every moment.. live each moment as if its the last one i got !!
Someday... I wanna see myself on the cover of the "TIME"... and once i achieve that out of my corporate career, i would like to get out of the rat race and get into teaching..to teach at the Indian School of Business.. two reasons... why i wanna teach there... bcos the vision and mission of the school are so clear and precise.. the following is so sleek... secondly.. its at hyderabad.. one city i cherish...
But... I want to reach my destination...my goal... to become someone who could directly enhance and plan the growth or an organization/institution...
Its not that I was not growing.. I was... But i needed vertical growth.. i need the pressure.. i need the environment which could sustain continous growth and responsibilities.. i needed myself.. wanted to reinvent myself every moment.. live each moment as if its the last one i got !!
Someday... I wanna see myself on the cover of the "TIME"... and once i achieve that out of my corporate career, i would like to get out of the rat race and get into teaching..to teach at the Indian School of Business.. two reasons... why i wanna teach there... bcos the vision and mission of the school are so clear and precise.. the following is so sleek... secondly.. its at hyderabad.. one city i cherish...
Book
i just came across this book : The ultimate book of business brands by stuart crainer.. wonderful book... very informative..
my friend yogesh just made in curious regarding the "the marketing blunder of the century "... and i have been troubling google since then....
my friend yogesh just made in curious regarding the "the marketing blunder of the century "... and i have been troubling google since then....
Kandisa......
the best fusion music to ever grace any human's ear.... its just eternal bliss.... drop in a ear...
keyboard.......
Our destinies resembles a keyboard... what u type in.. u get on the screeen... what u do in life.. u get the same as your destiny...
students work hard.. clear exams.. work hard .. clear courses.. work hard..perform... work hard.. satisfaction...
similarly..all our endeavours are basically a result of some event that has occured in our lives.. In business.. ethical practices are getting rarer by the day.. but companies which have stuck to it are reaping its benefits now.. take the case of Johnson and Johnson... a company of great repute.. financially stable.. and ethically rightly placed... in the late 70's the company underwent a situation which could have lead to the company's disaster.... One day due to somebody's mischief. a whole batch of a particular medicine was mixed with poison. The effect ..deaths... J & JJ had options.. either release a ad in the paper to warn people against purchasing the medicine.. or call back the entire batch... (which was a tougher option).. But the management decided to go for it.. and then it began.. the call back exercise involved the employees to reach every house where the medicine was sold.. even the MD of the company was involved in this house hunting process.. after two months of this rigrous exercise the company could manage to call back the entire stock... and now.. J & J holds one of the top positions as "the most ethical brand"....
students work hard.. clear exams.. work hard .. clear courses.. work hard..perform... work hard.. satisfaction...
similarly..all our endeavours are basically a result of some event that has occured in our lives.. In business.. ethical practices are getting rarer by the day.. but companies which have stuck to it are reaping its benefits now.. take the case of Johnson and Johnson... a company of great repute.. financially stable.. and ethically rightly placed... in the late 70's the company underwent a situation which could have lead to the company's disaster.... One day due to somebody's mischief. a whole batch of a particular medicine was mixed with poison. The effect ..deaths... J & JJ had options.. either release a ad in the paper to warn people against purchasing the medicine.. or call back the entire batch... (which was a tougher option).. But the management decided to go for it.. and then it began.. the call back exercise involved the employees to reach every house where the medicine was sold.. even the MD of the company was involved in this house hunting process.. after two months of this rigrous exercise the company could manage to call back the entire stock... and now.. J & J holds one of the top positions as "the most ethical brand"....
Insecurity
Are men only insecure ??? or is it just a part of human nature ?? these questions keep pinging me all the time. I may have a lot of drawbacks, but one sureshot drawback is my insecurity.. i may fight the world.. but ... fighting that insecurity within myself has become a challenge..
what is it which causes this feeling ?? attachment...possession... emotion... friends... love ???? but what do they mean to business.. or we just refering to relationships... there is a bond somewhere between the two... insecurity related to job.. work.. assignment..money..future.. anything under the sun i guess... the basic reason for every insecurity is the "sinking feeling of loss"..... "risk of survival without the "insecured" (not insured) being/item..
what is it which causes this feeling ?? attachment...possession... emotion... friends... love ???? but what do they mean to business.. or we just refering to relationships... there is a bond somewhere between the two... insecurity related to job.. work.. assignment..money..future.. anything under the sun i guess... the basic reason for every insecurity is the "sinking feeling of loss"..... "risk of survival without the "insecured" (not insured) being/item..
Monday, July 19, 2004
friends....
friends... mean a lot to me..and i am lucky enough to have two great friends... one is yogesh..and the other . they both make my life complete...
i have learnt a lot of things from these two... one thing common in them.. they speak the truth.. i was devoid of this virtue for a long time.. secondly..the sincerity and ability to perform even though sleep consumed the better half of the day....
we can brand them actually.. everything is a brand..u ...me ..everyone.. basically we symbolize zomething.. i may symbolize fat... dark... whatever... if u say pele.. u will immediately recalll the brazilian who wears yellow shirts and green shorts.... the goal..so many things...
i have learnt a lot of things from these two... one thing common in them.. they speak the truth.. i was devoid of this virtue for a long time.. secondly..the sincerity and ability to perform even though sleep consumed the better half of the day....
we can brand them actually.. everything is a brand..u ...me ..everyone.. basically we symbolize zomething.. i may symbolize fat... dark... whatever... if u say pele.. u will immediately recalll the brazilian who wears yellow shirts and green shorts.... the goal..so many things...
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